TwinTurbo.NET: Nissan 300ZX forum - thanks for taking your time to test them.I would be
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thanks for taking your time to test them.I would be
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blacktwin
on June 10, 2008 at 10:57 PM
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AMS vs. MSP Results
posted by na300zx (OH)
on June 10, 2008 at 09:07 PM
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interested in knowing what the manifolds consist of.i've often wondered are these mani's supposed to last as long as the stock ones?knowing what they're made of would be even more important of a factor to me then the slight difference in flow.
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AMS vs. MSP Results
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na300zx (OH)
21:07:52 06/10/08
I'm glad I have the MSP mani's. (n/m)
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jschrauwen
21:20:13 06/10/08
But I wish I had got the AMS one's.
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jschrauwen
05:15:34 06/11/08
hey, I think you have something dribbling off your chin.... (n/m)
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Furb (NoVa)
09:10:39 06/11/08
testing without a gasket and head does not make sense
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gt300zxtt
13:47:28 06/11/08
Exactly my thoughts
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na300zx (OH)
15:11:47 06/11/08
why wouldnt you? (n/m)
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zyoulater
17:44:30 06/11/08
cost $$ (n/m)
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jschrauwen
22:45:03 06/11/08
Thanks for making the effort.
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Bezza
21:30:03 06/10/08
I only mentioned it because AMS mentioned that they didn't
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na300zx (OH)
22:26:37 06/10/08
"It shouldn't amke a difference"? - Then we won't know.
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jschrauwen
05:24:14 06/11/08
I am curious what you think of the AMS tests then
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na300zx (OH)
14:44:00 06/11/08
A bit more believable since this one is incomplete. (n/m)
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jschrauwen
22:48:12 06/11/08
Well, using your same logic that says my test is irrelevant
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na300zx (OH)
04:12:22 06/12/08
Thanks for putting all of that work into a comparison!
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Z_Cherub
21:37:58 06/10/08
Thanks for your time.. Ill stick with MSP :) (n/m)
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fst300zx
21:42:00 06/10/08
second.
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Alan(NJ/MD)
22:04:07 06/10/08
3rd. There was/is no choice other than MSP. (n/m)
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Tu
22:12:25 06/10/08
Cliffs:
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ni[X]it
21:46:10 06/10/08
Plot of results
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Bezza
21:59:27 06/10/08
The 'made in china' casting slowed the air a bit. (n/m)
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dpjax
22:07:38 06/10/08
Thanks for doing the testing:)
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induetime
21:58:34 06/10/08
David did a really fine job of performing an unbiased test.
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kkrofft (OH)
22:11:04 06/10/08
Thanks for coming and taking a couple pics Kory (n/m)
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na300zx (OH)
22:17:37 06/10/08
so no real flow advantage...weird
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aliaZ
22:12:16 06/10/08
i bet my Pittsburgh sockets from harbor freight are stronger (n/m)
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Halo Z
22:32:15 06/10/08
Perhaps na300zx (OH) can answer that for you
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jschrauwen
22:43:44 06/10/08
Honest question...
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LJZTT
17:42:56 06/11/08
it isn't so much the style of manifold, but the materials
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aliaZ
20:21:17 06/11/08
I'm glad I chose the MSP headers as well.
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RICH1
22:34:10 06/10/08
You go man! Awesome...Thanks for doing these tests! (n/m)
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twinturbineZ
22:36:45 06/10/08
2nd (n/m)
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Piranha(AZ)
03:27:24 06/11/08
Appreciate the followup (n/m)
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SeedyROM
22:44:26 06/10/08
Thank you. (n/m)
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Bernie (NoVA)
22:50:16 06/10/08
nice...thanks (n/m)
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Spee
22:52:03 06/10/08
thanks for taking your time to test them.I would be -
blacktwin
22:57:01 06/10/08
Am I missing something?
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Waggz
23:09:57 06/10/08
I just found out on my 3zc thread that Vuk had them tested
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na300zx (OH)
23:17:43 06/10/08
That's what I figured.
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Waggz
23:25:42 06/10/08
Thank you (n/m)
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ae300z
23:17:42 06/10/08
good thing the AMS are cheaper :/
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vorpalZ
23:47:02 06/10/08
lol, complete waste of time (n/m)
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LJZTT
00:06:03 06/11/08
Good work, thanks for the report.
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Scotts94z32
00:32:20 06/11/08
your test is useless and a complete waste of time (n/m)
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z32_driver
01:14:23 06/11/08
An you are a stupid American. (n/m)
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Eishozzzz
06:27:41 06/11/08
what is your problem? (n/m)
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aliaZ
07:03:55 06/11/08
so are you (n/m)
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ZEngineer
09:11:34 06/11/08
And you're a poster child for birth control (n/m)
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BigTDogg (MA)
11:39:58 06/11/08
(Total Hits: 4,461). (n/m)
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Spongerider :)
11:53:17 06/11/08
I kindof wish you had flow tested the manifolds by
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Ash's Z
01:21:10 06/11/08
So Passenger 1 = cyl. #2 and Driver 1 = cyl. #1?
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Bezza
02:02:40 06/11/08
true - but to compare a back to back test on the same head
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The Devils Z
02:03:41 06/11/08
Ash, you took the words right out of my mouth.
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jschrauwen
05:27:40 06/11/08
Oh shut the fumk up man, you don't even know what he said
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BigTDogg (MA)
11:42:01 06/11/08
ROFL (n/m)
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zyoulater
17:46:41 06/11/08
That's precisely why your posts are deleted on 3ZC.
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jschrauwen
22:53:54 06/11/08
so immature, right?
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aliaZ
23:33:11 06/11/08
Actually, dunno about you, but I type with my fingers
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BigTDogg (MA)
09:27:50 06/12/08
While I agree with you, this testing does illustrate an
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aliaZ
07:00:23 06/11/08
agreed (n/m)
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The Devils Z
08:30:38 06/11/08
It illustrates one thing only.
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jschrauwen
08:36:27 06/11/08
Just remember. They're laughing AT you, not with you. (n/m)
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Guapo
10:08:19 06/11/08
Laughter is a good thing. It sure beats the name calling. (n/m)
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jschrauwen
10:35:11 06/11/08
Actually - this is a good test and details a few things:
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The Devils Z
11:42:14 06/11/08
2nd (holy crap) (n/m)
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Guapo
11:49:40 06/11/08
Well said (n/m)
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SeedyROM
12:14:12 06/11/08
Having heads that are ported and have 1mm os valves
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na300zx (OH)
14:49:09 06/11/08
My biggest qualm with flowtesting using a head is that the
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Ash's Z
15:09:21 06/11/08
There was no difference in valve lift
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na300zx (OH)
15:17:33 06/11/08
Hi David, I'm not questioning the ability of those
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Ash's Z
18:16:20 06/11/08
Agreed, somewhat, but the OP's test is flawed
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jschrauwen
23:00:41 06/11/08
how is his test flawed again? (n/m)
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aliaZ
23:26:19 06/11/08
what, no dixie cups and 2x4's this time? (n/m)
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genic
09:09:35 06/11/08
You bought two sets of manifolds why? (n/m)
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AZHeat
02:05:25 06/11/08
One set is for his Moms car :) (n/m)
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Piranha(AZ)
03:26:31 06/11/08
Were you expecting an honest answer? (n/m)
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jschrauwen
08:38:14 06/11/08
What's that supposed to mean?
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na300zx (OH)
14:55:10 06/11/08
because apparently the phone call to verify the test results
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LJZTT
12:21:29 06/11/08
This test cost me exactly $0
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na300zx (OH)
15:03:37 06/11/08
....aside from the price of two manifolds
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LJZTT
17:03:57 06/11/08
Lol, unbelievable.
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na300zx (OH)
17:45:51 06/11/08
first off I don't spend nearly enough time here to follow
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LJZTT
18:36:09 06/11/08
Look on AMS' graph and show me where it says how they
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na300zx (OH)
04:34:49 06/12/08
Re: Look on AMS' graph and show me where it says how they
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LJZTT
08:56:16 06/12/08
It's fun to see you grasp at straws. The fact that my
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na300zx (OH)
14:48:06 06/12/08
that's your excuse for this? I am angry and taking it out on
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LJZTT
17:01:52 06/12/08
A better Example than his:
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Keaner
17:57:58 06/11/08
Wow... Someone who gets it! (n/m)
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na300zx (OH)
18:01:19 06/11/08
why don't you call the shop and ask how you can trust their
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LJZTT
18:14:07 06/11/08
I mean since we already know AMS is a devious sinister
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LJZTT
18:49:31 06/11/08
20% is "diminiscule"? (n/m)
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na300zx (OH)
04:27:27 06/12/08
red herring....again, nice try
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LJZTT
08:37:42 06/12/08
Look again at cylinder #6
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na300zx (OH)
15:04:16 06/12/08
basketball...mentally challenged....double dribble.....you
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LJZTT
17:29:38 06/12/08
Let's see...
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na300zx (OH)
18:18:13 06/12/08
walks like a duck, talks like a duck...it's a duck
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LJZTT
18:26:55 06/12/08
Did you happen to miss the thread immediately
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na300zx (OH)
18:39:14 06/12/08
*sigh*
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LJZTT
22:11:38 06/12/08
And...
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na300zx (OH)
18:37:20 06/12/08
This has all been covered, you offer nothing with this test
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LJZTT
22:31:21 06/12/08
"I was buying two sets of manifolds anyway" ROFL (n/m)
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AZHeat
01:13:20 06/12/08
Well done.
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eriksu9
08:03:47 06/11/08
Here is an old post of mine with Pentroof manifolds
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Carlos Ramirez
08:07:15 06/11/08
Here is a good old post about flows on different manifolds
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Carlos Ramirez
08:10:57 06/11/08
Why aren't these 2 very popular here? If they flow so well,
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Yoshi
09:07:37 06/11/08
expensive mostly
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Carlos Ramirez
09:15:56 06/11/08
How much did they cost? It doesn't look to be available
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ThunderZ
21:12:17 06/11/08
Re: How much did they cost? It doesn't look to be available
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Carlos Ramirez
22:22:35 06/11/08
Thanks for the time and effort you put forth here.
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Hawkin"Z"
11:32:57 06/11/08
Nice work, but that first picture really pisses me off (n/m)
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BigTDogg (MA)
11:44:12 06/11/08
Re: AMS vs. MSP Results
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Vuk@Absolute Motorsports Inc.
11:46:27 06/11/08
What up rip off artist and e-thug! (n/m)
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Spongerider :)
12:05:24 06/11/08
Go go spin-master V
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SeedyROM
12:11:52 06/11/08
Was it you that deleted all my posts today over at 300zxclub
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Piranha(AZ)
12:29:55 06/11/08
my thoughts confirmed ...
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The Devils Z
13:18:19 06/11/08
2nd!!!
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gt300zxtt
14:11:16 06/11/08
Puh-lease
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BigTDogg (MA)
15:17:58 06/11/08
Just fyi, the numbers would be lower than yours
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na300zx (OH)
15:25:14 06/11/08
Request here, why dont you video tape jschrauwen humping yo
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zyoulater
18:03:43 06/11/08
LOL
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jschrauwen
23:09:11 06/11/08
beautiful spelling! Canadian EDJAMACATION for ya! (n/m)
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amp300zx
10:58:49 06/12/08
Thanks for taking the time to run the test. (n/m)
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SeanK (StL)
12:01:14 06/11/08
Thanks for your time and effort! (n/m)
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TT XTZ
12:08:51 06/11/08
...
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HicasZ
14:22:11 06/11/08
Can I get a loan from you since you have the means
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AZHeat
20:07:03 06/11/08
hes an auto tech student
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gt300zxtt
20:34:42 06/11/08
I'm sure all auto tech students purchase two sents
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AZHeat
21:17:39 06/11/08
Erm why couldn't he sell them?
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Bezza
22:48:58 06/11/08
I guess you missed the point (n/m)
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AZHeat
01:00:38 06/12/08
how is your oil pan coming?
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gt300zxtt
07:38:40 06/12/08
don't hold your breath
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LJZTT
18:11:07 06/12/08
why would you need a loan?
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aliaZ
23:28:42 06/11/08
Collegeboy and I wipe our asses with $100 bills for TP.
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AZHeat
01:10:31 06/12/08
beware of paper cuts
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aliaZ
09:20:26 06/12/08
provide links please. I don't follow everyone's post
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AZHeat
09:25:55 06/12/08
It doesn't matter why he bought them, though if he had no
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LJZTT
17:08:50 06/12/08
So just because I didn't offer my interpretation
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na300zx (OH)
18:13:10 06/12/08
Re: So just because I didn't offer my interpretation
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LJZTT
18:23:23 06/12/08
Yeah. Do you want an explanation? (n/m)
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na300zx (OH)
18:30:07 06/12/08
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